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by Campion
Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:25 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Region 1 A/AA
Replies: 70
Views: 66876

Re: Region 1 A/AA

:( List of AA-A ranked wrestlers who did not qualify for states out of their respective regions: (from the latest ranking, and only counting ranked wrestlers who actually wrestled, not those who scratched) https://www.wvmat.com/polls/2402092a.htm Region One (Previous State Placement in Parenthesis) ...
by Campion
Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Region 1 A/AA
Replies: 70
Views: 66876

Re: Region 1 A/AA

As recent as 2022, I believe Region 4 AA/A put 8 of the 14 wrestlers at the top of the podium at States. I believe they also had the most ranked wrestlers in the tournament, as well.
by Campion
Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:32 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AA/A ranked wrestlers per region
Replies: 107
Views: 2176608

Re: AA/A ranked wrestlers per region

Didn't 10 of the 14 AA/A Champions come from Region 4 last year?
by Campion
Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:30 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Winner’s Choice Teams
Replies: 9
Views: 6700

Re: Winner’s Choice Teams

Have the seeds been published somewhere?
by Campion
Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:05 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Rest in Peace Ron Mauck
Replies: 2
Views: 1937

Re: Rest in Peace Ron Mauck

RIP Ron Mauck!
by Campion
Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:10 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Tournaments- Dual vs Individual
Replies: 11
Views: 7074

Re: Tournaments- Dual vs Individual

Dual tournaments offer individuals more matches as they are guaranteed matches and don't just go 2 and out as happens in individual tournaments. They also offer better opportunities for better matchups if opponents are in different weight classes. It also encourages wrestlers to score more points i...
by Campion
Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:10 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: 1 out of 108
Replies: 16
Views: 7978

Re: 1 out of 108

A 126 AA/A didn’t make weight.
by Campion
Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:05 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: 138 AAA
Replies: 31
Views: 25367

Re: 138 AAA

Most Exciting A/AA weight classes IMO - Best time of the year in WV wrestling! Good Luck to All!!

145
132
106
220
138
126
120
170
152
160
182
285
195
113
by Campion
Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:05 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Seeding the State Tournament - Hybrid Pill
Replies: 63
Views: 45404

Re: Seeding the State Tournament - Hybrid Pill

But is that the whole point of the tournament? Some would argue that determining the best team in the state is the point. In some years the placement points recorded by a single placement in a single weight class were enough to determine the state team champion. So is getting the wrestlers seeded i...
by Campion
Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:55 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: 138 AAA
Replies: 31
Views: 25367

Re: 138 AAA

138 is a very balanced weight class without a clear favorite, for sure. Love all of these kids but here is how I see it.

1. Lucas
2. Hurst
3. Talley
4. Jones
5. Pauley
6. Ramirez

Should be fun to watch :D
by Campion
Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:58 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count
Replies: 7
Views: 3448

Re: Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count

There has been a whole lot of discussion on seeding wrestlers and specifically, how it can affect the Finals. Soooo, I thought I would look at this years WSAZ results… it is only one tournament and therefore only one data point but I found it pretty interesting. I had a minor in statistics to go al...
by Campion
Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:55 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count
Replies: 7
Views: 3448

Re: Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count

Ah statistics, math for liars lol. You could look at this many ways, one being a pareto chart where 1/2 are front loaded as you would hope. You could also look at the standard deviation (~2.854) and see that there are 2 outside of three standard deviations. Since 99.7% of your data should be within...
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:45 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count
Replies: 7
Views: 3448

Re: Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count

There has been a whole lot of discussion on seeding wrestlers and specifically, how it can affect the Finals. Soooo, I thought I would look at this years WSAZ results… it is only one tournament and therefore only one data point but I found it pretty interesting. I had a minor in statistics to go al...
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:18 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament
Replies: 14
Views: 8280

Re: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament

This might be an unpopular opinion but at least it will give you something to think about. Just because you seed the regional champions, doesn’t mean you will get the best matches in the finals. Not all wrestlers are healthy going into regionals and do whatever they can to make sure they qualify no...
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:53 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count
Replies: 7
Views: 3448

Information Sharing - WSAZ Finalist Seed Count

There has been a whole lot of discussion on seeding wrestlers and specifically, how it can affect the Finals. Soooo, I thought I would look at this years WSAZ results… it is only one tournament and therefore only one data point but I found it pretty interesting. I had a minor in statistics to go alo...
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:24 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament
Replies: 14
Views: 8280

Re: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament

All great topics and arguments for and against the pill. One more bit of my own opinion I'd like to add concerns the "exciting matches." Often OUR opinions of exciting wrestling matches varies between semis and finals. On the opposite end of the spectrum as a wrestler, making the finals i...
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:02 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Primary reason for WVMAT forum?
Replies: 10
Views: 6563

Re: Primary reason for WVMAT forum?

Collaboration and Information Sharing.
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:57 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament
Replies: 14
Views: 8280

Re: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament

Like Bearhugger has mentioned before, if more coaches participated in the voting of individual ranks, there could be a clear(er) path to seeding. If seeds are heavily persuaded by coaches' votes, it is basically a seeding meeting that lasts all year. If ranks become more important, you will see a l...
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:17 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA 113 - Take 2 Pills and Call Us in the Morning
Replies: 11
Views: 5006

Re: AAA 113 - Take 2 Pills and Call Us in the Morning

The top four 113s in the state in AAA are Bailes, Carmen, McFarland and Perry in alphabetical order. We can mix all the cream and iron together we want on any given day and get ourselves into a great state of delusion. Bailes is the current #1. McFarland and Perry have been beating each other throu...
by Campion
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:13 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament
Replies: 14
Views: 8280

Re: Memo from Bill Archer Regarding Seeding the State Tournament

Thanks for the background. This will be a great state tournament, again, this year! Thanks for the years of hard work! Looking forward to it! I also agree that there are many weight classes like 184 (182) where there are not clear 1 and 2 above all others. There are a few perceived 1 and all others…...
by Campion
Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:52 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza
Replies: 28
Views: 122140

Re: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza

--What would be the proposed seeding criteria for the state tournament? --If that criteria is the same as the one used for regionals, I can think of more than a few ways where regional results would be negated through this method. The regional tournament is an extension of the state tournament. If ...
by Campion
Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:32 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: First Round Pins in the State Finals
Replies: 1
Views: 1453

Re: First Round Pins in the State Finals

It might be time to go back through history and see what season gave us the most first round pins in the state finals. I predict we will break that record this season. If the best meet before the finals, then the finals could be over quick. Save my seat at Rooster's Saturday night. Have you calcula...
by Campion
Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:01 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza
Replies: 28
Views: 122140

Re: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza

A seeding meeting is only a tool. Trackwrestling is only a tool. A Pill is only a tool. The rulebook is only a tool. We need to use all tools needed for their intended purpose. A flathead screwdriver can be used for a chisel and too often is. Lol… Do you penalize someone for beating #1 or #2 in the...
by Campion
Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:00 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Intercepted Memo from Bear Tracks Headquarters
Replies: 3
Views: 2269

Re: Intercepted Memo from Bear Tracks Headquarters

We just concluded an emergency meeting at Bear Tracks to discuss the potential damage that Pill 2 is going to do the WV State Wrestling tournament. Upon initial review, there could be a new state record set for potential semifinal match ups between #1 and #2. Whatever the "plan" was two y...
by Campion
Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:37 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza
Replies: 28
Views: 122140

Re: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza

Howard vs Brothers Holy Smokes! This is a disaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good catch coach. I haven' made it through everything yet. We have talked about this for years. The can gets kicked down the road. Here we have the best wrestling season we have had in a long time. A very incredible AAA team race....
by Campion
Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:35 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza
Replies: 28
Views: 122140

Re: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza

At 113 you have the current #1 and #2 matching up in the quarters. One of them didn’t win their region. Only way that happens. I will also add that the rankings are just a tool and cannot predict future results. A seeding meeting is only a tool. Trackwrestling is only a tool. A Pill is only a tool....
by Campion
Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:37 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Intercepted Memo from Bear Tracks Headquarters
Replies: 3
Views: 2269

Re: Intercepted Memo from Bear Tracks Headquarters

We just concluded an emergency meeting at Bear Tracks to discuss the potential damage that Pill 2 is going to do the WV State Wrestling tournament. Upon initial review, there could be a new state record set for potential semifinal match ups between #1 and #2. Whatever the "plan" was two y...
by Campion
Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:08 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza
Replies: 28
Views: 122140

Re: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza

FMScoach7 wrote:At 113 you have the current #1 and #2 matching up in the quarters.

One of them didn’t win their region. Only way that happens. I will also add that the rankings are just a tool and cannot predict future results.
by Campion
Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:04 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza
Replies: 28
Views: 122140

Re: Pill 2 - A Semifinal Extravaganza

Wvufan08 wrote:Maybe just maybe there could be some upsets before we get there? To be continued?

It happens every year!
by Campion
Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:38 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Intercepted Memo from the latest Coaches' Rankings
Replies: 7
Views: 4438

Re: Intercepted Memo from the latest Coaches' Rankings

From your intercepted memo, it doesnt sound like Raike is the runner nor would anyone expect him to be. That would be silly. He would be favored in a few weight classes.

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